A Deep Dive into the Power of Mental Wealth and Compersion (Throwback Interview with Joe Peach)

Throw back with speaker Joe Peach 

What if there was a way to transmute jealousy into an emotion that fosters joy, even in the most difficult times? Welcome to a pivotal discussion on compersion, an extraordinary emotion that stands opposite to jealousy. As we journey through this enlightening episode, we will explore how adopting a mindset of compersion can help us reassess and reshape our relationships, career, and life paths. Our discussions extend beyond compersion to delve deep into the realm of mental wealth and its crucial role in maintaining joy and personal growth.

As we step into 2021, we're embracing a new season of hope and healing. We're not just surviving a global pandemic; we're transcending it. We've discovered hidden depths within ourselves and have stories to tell of resilience, strength, and growth. A line-up of inspiring guests will share their insights and personal stories, covering all aspects of our existence - our bodies, our minds, our souls, and our overall well-being. We've built a safe space of support and encouragement, with our community being a platform for connection and shared experiences.

Finally, we dive into the art of finding joy, even in the darkest corners of life. You'll learn how to shift your focus from despair to delight, and how finding joy can be a skill, not a happenstance. We'll explore how to live authentically in peace, embracing the coexistence of pain and joy. Join us and let's set sail together on this boat called life, lighting up the darkness with our collective joy. Remember, it's not just about surviving; it's about thriving, and together we can make 2021 a year of light and love.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:39

Music, music.

Speaker 2: 0:58

Music, music. Happy New Year everyone. It's 2021 and what an amazing year we're about to embark on. Thank you so much for being part of Retreat to Peace, an authentic global humanitarian effort to bring people together in a place of healing and a place of love and joy and living in authenticity. We are embarking on Season 2 and, for everyone who has been part of Season 1, thank you so much for being part of this.

Speaker 2: 1:39

As we go into 21, I think the word is Hope. Have your hope that things will continue to change and get better. Have your hope and insight that you, too, are evolving and you, too, are changing and healing and getting better and living in your authentic space. We are really embarking in an incredible, incredible time. We're still living in a global pandemic. I know countries around the world are still in lockdown, as I am speaking today, but that will change as things evolve. Things will get better, things will get lighter and it will feel better all the way around, but we just have to keep with our resiliency. As with human beings, that's what we are we are resilient. It's important to remind ourselves that we are resilient and that, even when we're in our darkest moment, that there is always a sliver of light, so look for the light. There may be shades of gray that you're navigating through, but those shades of gray have light on them, so continue to move out of the darkness into the light if you're living in a dark space.

Speaker 2: 2:56

For 2021, we are excited to offer online retreats that will be coming up. I encourage you to join our newly formed Facebook community for this online retreat platform. I will be bringing back some of my favorite guests from 2020 and introducing you to new guests that I have met along the way that have some really powerful insight and stories of their own personal journeys and how they overcame what they have been handed in life. I think it's important to make mention that each and every one of us is in a space of healing and growing, and it's okay. So this online support community is meant to really be supportive in that space. Everyone around the world.

Speaker 2: 3:50

As we take our own steps to take care of ourselves, to help ourselves grow, to face the darkest part of ourselves and move it into a space of light and love, we will uncover a space that we never imagined possible, and I think that is the most beautiful thing that has come out of the year 2020 is that we have literally gone into a dark space but have uncovered something about ourselves that we didn't even know. It was kind of like going on a treasure hunt within yourself and finding something about yourself that you didn't even know you had, and that is a gift as you find your way through 2021, I encourage you to be present with us. I have some incredible speakers who are going to be coming on to address all parts of us our body, our mindset, our soul and our physical well-being, our mental well-being, our spiritual well-being. Each one of these individuals that I have selected will be talking to us in such a way that we can relate to them, but also implement some tools that we can take and use immediately. Each and every one of my speakers up to this point has offered tools of healing that they personally have used for themselves that have gotten them out of the darkness.

Speaker 2: 5:22

I have had so many people reach out to me and say how impactful a particular speaker was in a time where they were feeling like they were alone or isolated. For example, speakers from around the world have come forward with their personal struggles of addiction, depression, anxiety, cancer recovery, arthritis recovery, mental health recovery. There are so many stories, stories of forgiveness, personal hope. There are so many stories that individuals can relate to that everyday people go through. What we know about 2020 is Hollywood went silent, and when Hollywood went silent, the people of the world stepped up and they shared their true stories to get into a space to let other people know that this is real. This isn't fiction, this isn't pretend. What we live is real.

Speaker 2: 6:27

As we feel this, we want everyone to know from retreat to peace that you are fully supported. You are fully welcome in our community. Come as you are in the space that you're in and help find ways to give you the tools that you need for success, because that's exactly what we want when the invisible rug is thrown under your feet and pulled out. We want you to know that there is someone on our team of retreat to peace who has been there and can offer ways to help you out of what it is that you are experiencing.

Speaker 2: 7:06

Thank you so much for being part of this incredible community. Thank you for supporting our new year as we start season 2. 2021 is set to be an incredible year and I am so excited to share some incredible journeys of incredible people. So again, find our Facebook community Retreat to Peace. You will know it's us because we have an aqua or a blue banner with a world peace dove that flies over the words retreat to peace. So come be part of our community, join our online summit as far as our speakers and just dive into a space where you can continue to get the guidance and support and whatever it is that you're feeling today. Much love and gratitude for a very happy, joyous, peaceful new year. As you live in your authentic space, you you, you.

Speaker 2: 9:50

You, you, you.

Speaker 3: 11:36

You, you.

Speaker 2: 11:55

You, you.

Speaker 3: 12:36

You, you, you, you, you, you you.

Speaker 2: 15:06

You, you, you, you you.

Speaker 3: 16:25

You, you, and as such, I would see children wait in line for hours, sometimes waiting to give, you know, a character Goofy, mickey, minnie, anybody the biggest hug ever. And they would get to the front of the line and they would run full speed at the character, almost knock them over and just give them this amazing hug. And the joy that the children would feel was so palpable, it was so clear, and their families as well. So, so incredible, and you never know what was going on in a child's life and in their family's life that they needed that. You know we were trained, as we would help the characters you know, meet their fans, to let that hug last as long as it needed to last. And you know the characters. They were very clear, they were not going to be the first to let go. So the really beautiful experience.

Speaker 3: 17:34

But what I began to notice a lot was more so than just the people involved in that experience, the people walking past that had nothing to do with that experience. They were just walking by. They would see it out of the corner of their eye and they would stop and they would just melt. They would just experience the joy of that child, just like you. You're smiling right now, I can see it and the smile that you have, where you're experiencing that as though you were there and that's not your kid. I've told this story to people who have never been to Disney and they still feel the joy despite their connection to the experience. So I went kind of searching for what that was, and this word came across when I was talking about what is the joy you have when you experience another person's joy, and this word, compersion, popped up, and it's known mostly as the opposite of jealousy. So when I found that, I wondered why I didn't know more about it, and what I learned was that compersion is most widely associated with its largest extreme, where somebody who you love deeply is doing a lot more than just hugging Goofy, and so having joy for that can be extraordinarily challenging and oftentimes unsurmountable. For most people to have a loved one find joy and love with another is just too much, and that's okay.

Speaker 3: 19:41

My goal and my message is that having an overall active mindset of compersion in as many things as possible is an extraordinarily powerful choice and one that not only will make the world a better place, but will also turn around and help people in a lot, the same way that it's helped me, because I don't think anybody would blame me for being upset getting a message of divorce over Facebook Messenger. We were married nearly 10 years. We had a child together, we had a business together, we lived, you know, like we were happy and still are, which is really, really interesting, because we're able to still be happy in each other's lives for each other. Because of this philosophy and that's that's what I share in the book and that's one of the things that has helped me grow in my businesses and my speaking and just, you know, a concept that I want to bring awareness to because, you're right, very few people know the word.

Speaker 3: 20:57

In fact, if you type it in C O M P E R S I O? N, your device will try to spell check you. They'll say like, did you mean compassion or did you mean something else you couldn't have? This isn't a thing, but if you Google it and you don't let it spell change it, you'll get that definition and you'll you'll be made clear as to what this is and why it's so powerful.

Speaker 2: 21:26

The interesting thing about this is, as you were talking about, goofy and the expressions of smiles and the swelling of hearts and love and all of these things that happen, I mean innately it just brings us to a place where we're children and we don't have these, these barriers that we develop into as we go through our childhood, into adulthood, where we understand the separations right. So as little children, we innately don't have these labels or these ideals that we have to operate in a certain space. So it's interesting because immediately that's what it takes me to is to that childlike state where it's, of course, I want to see everyone happy, I want everyone to feel that joy, right. So I think it's a very beautiful state to be operating from and just be part of. But I also, you know it's interesting when things you've said was this idea and this concept of using it with your divorce and your life and kind of turning everything that was uncomfortable inside out and seeing it through a new lens and giving it a new vision as far as the world that you were living in and for anyone in our audience that may be going through a divorce, I mean, right now we're living in such a place where people have been forced to go inward and they're literally reevaluating so many things in their life, like their relationships, and you know what they're doing with their life.

Speaker 2: 23:16

Are they working? You know the careers that they want to be in? You know long term, is it serving what it is that they see for their sole purpose, for their life journey? There's so many things and I love this idea of creating that kind of mindset for yourself that it doesn't have to be this negative state or this negative way that we all have seen all over the place by our peers, by other people, with been shown to us on TV. There's so many different things. So I really, really, you know, appreciate this ability to show us something different, the way that you're doing, and if you could take us, take us into this a little bit more to help us really understand this process.

Speaker 3: 24:14

Well, you know, something that that really came to mind as you were speaking was the idea that there is change and then there's loss, and the idea that loss is imaginary, because loss is just a sense of change. And we we spoke about this before. We went on about the idea that you want to make God laugh. You know, have a plan, and it's this idea that the only reason why loss exists is because you think that you have a plan. That should be. So part of compersion helps you realize what is truly for you. You know, it's that self realization where, when you lose something, it's actually just a change in a direction that it's supposed to go. And, you know, part of the idea of making it an active choice is the idea of understanding. And one of the things that that I like to, you know, think on, because I'm very mathematical, is I make a chart. So there's pain on one line and joy on the other line, and so there are, there are terms actually, that when you feel pain or joy for somebody else's pain or joy, there are words that match anything in any of those quadrants, and so they they talk about the least, admittedly, desirable form is when you feel joy for the pain of others and the word that that designs that it's pronounced Schadenfreude. It's a German word that literally translates to harm joy, and I've only heard that word used once. It was actually in the Elon Musk biography, where he recognized that there were a lot of people that were hoping for him to fail, and most people would never admit to having that experience of joy for the pain for others. If they did, they would be judged extremely significantly as being evil or wrong or whatever. But you know we also spoke about right now in the political climate there's a lot of people who are going to be cheering because somebody lost, and it doesn't matter who they were rooting for. There are a lot of people who are more happy about who lost than who won, and so that feeling is natural, but it's something that we can actively avoid. The next quadrant is having pain for somebody else's joy or jealousy, another that we're extremely familiar with this one, and we don't necessarily think it's the best place to live, but we end up living there so often, and it's mainly because of that understanding that there's a sense of loss. In that example where I talked about the Disney character, nobody was thinking, oh, I wish I was that kid. There maybe were a few people wishing that they were on vacation, or a few people who are sad that, for example, now with COVID, there's no hugging in the Disney park. I know I had some sadness there, but then again my compersion kicked in and, remembering that that's how people stay healthy, I can be in joy for their life, for their health, for my former fellow cast members' health in that experience. And so you can make a choice. No matter what you think you lost, you can just apply it to change.

Speaker 3: 28:31

Then there's pain, for somebody else's pain. We talked about that empathy and in empathy a person oftentimes will take their empathy and they'll live in the pain and because they're focused on the pain, it will expand. And it's a really tricky line because recognizing that pain exists and working to alleviate that pain which is what I truly believe you're doing with this podcast you're reaching out into the darkness and lifting people out of it by shining a light, and that's something that honestly, very few people do with their empathy. So often people will sit in their empathy and they'll live in their pain, and that's not the best use of a person's energy. And then the last quadrant is compersion, or having joy for someone else's joy, and there's this idea that there's like excess in that or a lack of caring for others because you're just focused on the good. But the truth is, if you recognize that what you focus on expands, don't we want joy to expand in the world? Don't we want people to be happier, even if it's not in the extreme? Who's that person? Who got the job you wanted and you could have been happy for them and served them and helped them and been excited for them. Or you could feel pain because you were supposed to get that job, why they must have been doing this and that the other to get this job.

Speaker 3: 30:19

Or judging and labeling and creating a negative situation when there doesn't need to be one, when you can be gracious, you can have joy for and you can move on in that joy like, oh, great job, but I'm going to beat you next time. You know there can be competition and still a sense of achievement. It's not giving up being happy for someone. That's something I teach my daughter. Actually, we are very competitive in our house and whenever there's like a little bit of, I'll say what do we say? And she'll say great job, I'm going to beat you next time, and then she works to beat me next time and she works to beat her friends next time, and that's cool because competition can definitely grow. But that feeling of I should have joy for their joy, I should actively make a point to have joy for their joy and putting a name to that compersion that will grow in its awareness if I have anything to do with it is something that I just I feel will make the world a better place.

Speaker 2: 31:38

There's so much that we can talk to on all these points, because, as you're expressing all of this, I'm just thinking why hasn't this been in our vocabulary forever? You know? Because I mean, we always hear about let's be kind to one another. We always hear these kinds of messages and, universally, as humans, you know, we are literally, we're literally molded and sculpted into these people. We become as young adults and adults and into adulthood. But as we grow into ourselves, we do have the ability to decide exactly what it is that we want to do with our thoughts and our mindset and how we operate and move forward. So it's really fun to hear how you're parenting your daughter, this competitiveness that you have with her.

Speaker 2: 32:34

And I think the unique thing about this is when you talk about empathy and I do want to talk to this point a little bit, because I know I've had several of my guests come on that talk about the highly sensitive person, and this is a term that describes people that are very empathic so they have this heightened state of ability to be able to feel another person's process or pain or whatever it is that they're going through, and it's not necessarily something that they chose, it's just part of how they're wired as a human being.

Speaker 2: 33:25

So when you look at empathy, one of the things that you've said is that the empathy piece of it and that component of it gives that person the ability to have the feeling of pain, but then they're also expanding that pain. So right now around the world, we're living in this space where people are in pain and they don't necessarily have to be a highly sensitive person to feel that pain. So what kind of tools can you offer to help people kind of turn this insight out? I know you talked about this grid, this chart. I mean, is it as simple as let's just compartmentalize it, or do we need to take it a step further and do we need to look at it in such a way that we're redesigning our script, that we're telling ourselves and how we're navigating through the world and the way that it is today?

Speaker 3: 34:28

Well, you know what it comes down to with regards to whatever sensitivity. Have you ever visited the Hawaiian radio station? Gosh, what's a good one the bomb. Have you ever gone to that radio station?

Speaker 3: 34:52

No, I've not, no right. And you know why? Because you don't even know the channel. You don't know how to receive those radio waves. No matter how sensitive your antenna, if you don't know the channel, you're never going to receive it.

Speaker 3: 35:13

My belief is that your sensitivity allows you to receive whatever you're tuned into, and so it is as simple as tuning into the proper channel. You know there are people. My mentors suggest that I don't watch the news, because if there's anything that's important enough for you to actually have something you can specifically do about it in the moment, somebody you know will call you. Because whatever you're tuned into expands, simply like, even with our current mode of viewership we were talking about media earlier you look at social media, you look at newspapers, music, anything like that the viewership just listening to something, the number of views, the number of likes, the number of subscribes impacts that message's ability to reach more people. So what are you tuned into? And because so few people even know that there is this active choice, they tune into whatever loudest and the pain is loud. Right now there are several stations you can accidentally happen.

Speaker 3: 36:48

On the pain, you have to very, very specifically focus on the joy. And if you're very specifically focused on the joy. If you're looking for what will bring you joy, the community I create with my business is called Paradise Forever, because I want people to identify, design and build what Paradise looks like for them and consistently work towards building that Connect with systems, people, places that can bring them to that Paradise. And that's because through that focus you're able to grow. In that way Are you going to maybe catch the channel from time to time? For sure, and there's nothing wrong with shining a light on it, like I said, and going in there with a purpose of let's change this to joy, let's flip these switches, let's turn these pages. But to sit there and go oh, that's sad and feel that and listen to it longer, to really dig in and hear the story, or to and know deep down that you're not going to do anything about it. To know deep down that you're going to hear it, you're going to emotionally connect to it, it's going to bring you down. You might even tell somebody about it. Oh my gosh, I heard this today and it was so hard and it was so painful. And oh my gosh, you have to check it out, what you know, unless, unless, like like I said, unless your, your purpose is to actively make those changes.

Speaker 3: 38:41

I need you to listen to this so that we can do something about it, because you spoke earlier with me about creating an army, creating a, a positive army of people who come together to solve problems, and that some problems are really too big to do by yourself. We need to come together as a people to solve problems. If your active goal is bringing people together to solve those problems, yes, but if you're, if your active goal is just to live your life and still your own cup first, which I think is there's there's validity there. There's validity in I'm not full, I'm not right with myself, so I need to focus on filling myself, Fill yourself with joy, tune in to the things that bring you joy, because as you fill your cup, so will you fill others. It's inevitable. I hope that answered the question.

Speaker 2: 39:39

I think yeah, I think that's a good way to put it, because for many people they don't know what to do with, To do with this discomfort, and you see a lot of people you know using vices to kind of switch gears to escape their realities.

Speaker 2: 39:57

You see suicide rates going up and if anyone listening is suicidal, please reach out to your community support and seek out that help. But, yes, I think that you know just giving yourself permission to, as you stated, not allow the bombardment of negativity flood you day after day, and that that means turning off the news, Like if you're physically having a body response because you're literally being, you know, electrocuted almost with all this negativity. You really need to take a step back and ask yourself some really hard questions like what am I feeding my brain and what am I putting into my body? Is it really serving me? Is this something that's helping me to heal or to get better or get me into that place of joy? So I love, I love this idea because I just think that in a time that we live in right now, when there's so many things that are outside of everyone's control around the world, this is a space that you actually have control of?

Speaker 3: 41:11

is this power of mental wealth right that you exactly yeah in fact, as you were saying that, I'd love, I'd love for you and your listeners to try and exercise that one of my mentors actually has has given to me, and it's this idea of how do we get these thoughts out of our brain. Right? What's so interesting is the concept of getting something out of your brain. Stopping thinking about something is really, really hard. So to help people with that, let me. Let me give you this exercise.

Speaker 3: 41:52

So I want you to close, look around your room for everything that is read. Look around for everything that is read, every single thing that you can see that is read. Lots of red, even even things that you think are close to red, whatever is read. Okay, now close your eyes and tell me everything you saw that was green. For most people, it's very hard for them to think of the things that they saw that were green because they were filling their mind. I don't know what you thought of that was green, but, like, your shirt is bright green. Okay, like you're so round, you got plans and you got all this green. But you know, you tell me, like, could you think of those green things while you were doing that exercise?

Speaker 2: 42:44

Well, for me personally, I have this palm that's next to me. I've got some live plans. I was like, as soon as you said something green, I was like oh, palm.

Speaker 3: 42:59

But potentially, while you were thinking of things that were red, you were seeing things that were orange and you were like you know, like we'll look for the things so.

Speaker 3: 43:08

so there is really no way to stop thinking about something.

Speaker 3: 43:14

The only way to stop thinking about something is to start thinking about something else and think of joy, think of what makes you happiest, and and that's all in the mental.

Speaker 3: 43:26

That's why I'm so excited that we're in this space of the power of mental wealth, because you know me and my mentors and I mean for anybody that's heard of Les Brown just being in a book with him is so powerful and he reminds me of the responsibility that I have as a thought leader to not only share my message but to connect to people like you and like your audience and like anybody who's listening to this, who's trying to grow or trying to build or have joy in their life. Just by you having joy in your life, you give permission to others to have joy as well. You don't have to feel as though people will be jealous of you. Like, don't, don't have jealousy and also don't be afraid of jealousy. Be in joy and be honest about your joy, like that's. That's one of the biggest pieces of it is. It's it's being comfortable and willing to feel your joy is a power and it's a sign of the mentally developing.

Speaker 2: 44:36

Yeah, yeah, I love that and anybody that knows me personally they can attest to what I'm about to tell you. And my kids might be cringing right now is, if they're listening to this, but growing up it literally was, you know, a message of for my children. It was like if they I mean if it was unrelated to a personal situation that needed my attention as a parent, of course that was different. But if it was anything that was in this negative space, I literally would remind them consistently be happy, like just be happy and look for the happy. And you know, when they would come up to me and say, mom, let's watch this horror film, I would say no, it's not happy, you know, because I really do believe in manifesting this positivity and what it is that we put into ourselves. And earlier, when I talked about this electrocution kind of feeling, you know just from personal experience and having gone through a lot of trauma and understanding, you know how the body response is to pain and it doesn't have to be physical pain. It can be that emotional pain and knowing what the state of that is and knowing how that affects the body. So I knew intuitively as a little girl that that's not a state that I want to live in. So I would find a way to move out of that state right.

Speaker 2: 46:10

And one of the things, interestingly enough, is music is so powerful and people don't really understand the power of music but you literally can change being in this moment and flashback to a happier time just by turning on music that sings to your soul, whatever that means.

Speaker 2: 46:33

And this happened to me last week actually. So you know, last week we were here in the US. We were in this really heavy, heavy energy week because we had our elections and things have been total chaos and everyone everywhere. You could just feel how heavy the burden was everywhere and I just I couldn't even watch the news. I couldn't. I couldn't have any part of anything. And I remember just getting behind the wheel and turning the engine over and hearing the radio go on and I had on some 70s funk channel that literally started playing some funk music and it's just like all you wanted to do is dance, like you just want you know, like you were swept back into a party or some happy moment, oh gosh, yes, I love it, I love 70s, but it literally like flashed me into a place in time that was not now, not here, and it was amazing and it just reminded me, like, how important music is.

Speaker 2: 47:49

And if anyone you know is in a place where they're just kind of stuck, get unstuck, like, go to your happy place with your music, go to your paradise that you've created in your mind. That brings you to that happier place and universally. Music just does so much for us because it really transforms us into when we were little kids, when we were free of responsibilities. We didn't have, you know, bills to pay or responsibilities of other little humans, or, you know, big humans as they get bigger and all of the burdens of you know what adulthood comes with and that that space to be in, even if it's for a few minutes, is so powerful and so transforming. So I invite everyone to go and challenge yourself to go into that space, even if it's for a little while.

Speaker 3: 48:46

Absolutely, absolutely, I mean it's and it's a choice. It's a choice. It's an active choice that we make every single moment. And what's so interesting? You know you spoke about the horror movies and me, and me and my girlfriend recently have started watching a horror series, pretty popular, and and she initially had the same feeling, just like you it's like I don't want to watch that because it's gory and it's not happy. And this meant the other and her daughter loved the loved it, and she has since she has her son living with her, now 17 years old, and he's gotten into it and she was able to shift her focus away from the gore and the violence and the this and that and the other of it to watching her son laugh. And so it's finding the joy, because sometimes you are not able to control the channel Right, but if your mental antenna is focused in on joy, you can be watching the same thing.

Speaker 3: 50:09

You know, as I said, I've traveled a lot in my life and so I used to. I used to be on a cruise ship, I used to work on Norwegian cruise line, and working on Norwegian cruise line we used to joke and say that you know, there's some people this will be the best week of your life. There are other people, this will be your worst week of your life, and guess what? We're all on the same boat and it's a joke, but it's true, because no matter what is is coming at you, it's what, what is within and what are you focused on? What are you looking for? And when you're in a space where you're looking for joy, then you can actually find joy in whatever you know, because, because life, one of the things that that you know is true and I think this is just a universal truth is that change is inevitable. Things will change. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 51:12

And you know, things that you don't expect to happen will happen, and if your antenna is set for joy, you will find joy, and so that's that's the message, that's that's something that's so powerful, especially now. There is joy out there. There is joy out there right now. You know there are millions of people out there who are losing money right now. Who's finding it? Let's let's focus on who's finding it. You know there are people out there who are terribly sick. There are also people who are now focused more than ever on being healthy.

Speaker 3: 51:59

My friend does an online yoga class and their viewership has gone up drastically throughout this pandemic because it's online and because it's health and wellness related, and so people are now wanting to be healthier, wanting to breathe better, wanting to have stronger lungs and stronger you know airflow, because they're scared that they're not going to be able to breathe.

Speaker 3: 52:24

And you know, like there's, you know, new products being created and new systems being created. We're connected on zoom right now, and seven months ago there are people that not only didn't know what a zoom is, but if they were invited to get on to it, would need to download an app. Would need to download an app, would need to figure it out, would need to start over from scratch. And now people know how to connect with people all over the world. There are people having, you know, weddings and funerals and and business meetings and things over this platform in a way they never could have before. There are people showing up to events in greater capacities. I was part of a personal development event with another one of my mentors, tony Robbins, where they had more people at this event than they had ever had at any other event of his ever.

Speaker 3: 53:28

That's amazing, they were able to connect via this, this thing that, honestly, if they hadn't been forced to, they would have never learned how to use. So where is the joy? It's out there and and and again in a like I honor you so much because you are actively looking into the darkness, you're one of the people that are diving into the darkness to draw people out in the shine light, and that is that is scary. That's like a firefighter or a police officer or or someone you know, one of our armed forces or people who who actively put themselves in danger to protect them, and that's that's such a beautiful thing because it's a choice and you recognize it as a choice, whereas you know the, the people who are just focused on the negative and the things that are happening and wondering why negative things happen in their life, because they're tuned into that. So, yeah, it's, we're all in, we're all in the same boat. We're all in the same boat.

Speaker 2: 54:44

Yeah, we really are, and that's why I do my insure the way that I do, because we are literally in our one home in this one world and we're all people, we're all people, we take all these labels off and we are all just people. So I, joe, I Joe Peach I should say I love your name and I love, love, love this message that you have. There's just so much to it and I just think that the light that you're shining into the darkness with your message is so powerful to, because it just puts a different perspective on things that people may not have had that vision on before today. So, thank you with so much gratitude. Thank you, and I do have one last question. So I ask all of my guests on retreat to peace If I were to pick up your earth angel father off the ground and you had a message to the world, what would it be?

Speaker 3: 55:50

For I think it's been pretty clear Find the joy and knowing the, the terms you know, understanding that that joy and happiness is a skill, and so knowing the terms associated with that skill, like conversion, are powerful tools that you can use to live in joy and give those around you permission to do the same. So I would. I would absolutely want anybody who found my feather to be able to joy, spread joy and find joy.

Speaker 2: 56:40

That is absolutely beautiful and amazing, and it's just a testament to who you are and what you're doing as well. You know putting your light into this world as well, so thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3: 56:56

It is my absolute pleasure and thank you for giving me the time to be here to share my message and to get to meet you. I'm really super, super impressed. I look forward to future collaboration and I'm really excited that I got an opportunity to share some time with you today.

Speaker 2: 57:15

Thank you so much, and that's all we have time for today. This is Catherine Daniels, with retreat to peace, reminding you to live your authentic life in peace. And, as always, retreat to peace and we'll see you next time. Thank you.