When the tranquility of nature intertwines with the rawness of human struggle, a poignant narrative unfolds. My guest, Scott Manduck, joins me, Catherine Daniels, in a deeply personal conversation bridging the distance around the world as we explore the resilience of the human spirit through my own story. This episode is a tapestry woven with the threads of adversity and solace, as I recount a childhood marred by trauma, the profound guidance of my guardian angel at age five, and how my sanctuary in Mother Nature's arms led to an unwavering mission of healing and peace.
The pivotal moment of 'Retreat to Peace' sprang forth in the grandeur of Zion National Park, a testament to the epiphanies that shape our destinies. I share the captivating origin story of this endeavor, revealing how close encounters with the majesty of a California condor and the symbolic peace dove at my doorstep heralded a global call to unite and heal in the wake of the pandemic. Our dialogue extends to the heartrending tales of those who joined my journey, from Ireland's shores gripped by lockdowns to the struggles of a young girl's escape from human trafficking, culminating in a collective awakening.
In seeking serenity amidst chaos, we delve into strategies for inner peace and emotional resilience. The upcoming release of my workbook 'Centerpiece' aims to equip individuals with a toolkit for spiritual well-being, while the transformative coursework I have crafted promises a path to self-healing. This episode is an invitation to embrace change, detoxify from life's stressors, and engage with powerful stories that inspire hope, growth, and profound personal transformation. Join us in this heart-to-heart exchange, where shared experiences become a guiding light toward a more peaceful existence.
Please visit us at: http://retreattopeace.com to find out more about the shows you love to listen to, the upcoming retreats we have planned and your favorite merchandise to help support those in need. Also, send us your testimonial of how the show or Catherine has helped you. We would love to share your story on the air.
When the tranquility of nature intertwines with the rawness of human struggle, a poignant narrative unfolds. My guest, Scott Manduck, joins me, Catherine Daniels, in a deeply personal conversation bridging the distance around the world as we explore the resilience of the human spirit through my own story. This episode is a tapestry woven with the threads of adversity and solace, as I recount a childhood marred by trauma, the profound guidance of my guardian angel at age five, and how my sanctuary in Mother Nature's arms led to an unwavering mission of healing and peace.
The pivotal moment of 'Retreat to Peace' sprang forth in the grandeur of Zion National Park, a testament to the epiphanies that shape our destinies. I share the captivating origin story of this endeavor, revealing how close encounters with the majesty of a California condor and the symbolic peace dove at my doorstep heralded a global call to unite and heal in the wake of the pandemic. Our dialogue extends to the heartrending tales of those who joined my journey, from Ireland's shores gripped by lockdowns to the struggles of a young girl's escape from human trafficking, culminating in a collective awakening.
In seeking serenity amidst chaos, we delve into strategies for inner peace and emotional resilience. The upcoming release of my workbook 'Centerpiece' aims to equip individuals with a toolkit for spiritual well-being, while the transformative coursework I have crafted promises a path to self-healing. This episode is an invitation to embrace change, detoxify from life's stressors, and engage with powerful stories that inspire hope, growth, and profound personal transformation. Join us in this heart-to-heart exchange, where shared experiences become a guiding light toward a more peaceful existence.
Please visit us at: http://retreattopeace.com to find out more about the shows you love to listen to, the upcoming retreats we have planned and your favorite merchandise to help support those in need. Also, send us your testimonial of how the show or Catherine has helped you. We would love to share your story on the air.
You, here we go. Hey you, wherever you are in the world right now. Thank you so much for being here with me. We know that we live in some volatile times and we know that the world is changing. So let's create a bridge as we travel through one another's countries, removing all the labels, coming together as one people in our home, in one world, and this is why our signature talk today is so important. I want to take a moment to introduce my guest, scott Nanduck. Hi, scott.
Speaker 2:Hey, how are you?
Speaker 1:I'm doing great. Thank you. Scott is a dear friend from Canada. I'm here in the US, this is Katherine Daniels, and we're going to switch gears a little bit this time. During this episode, we are going to actually take an opportunity to have Scott interview me and he's going to take a little bit of a deeper dive into, about my journey and give you guys some insight around who I am and, of course, as you know, retreat to peace. So, scott, I'm going to let you take the rain as everybody settles in and we get started.
Speaker 2:It's kind of fun switching the roles, isn't it? Definitely we're going to have some fun here. So a big thing is like what really got you started, Katherine? What got you doing what you do to be the person you are today? What got you started?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so intriguing because I've spent a lot of time working with a lot of people throughout my life and my journey just talking to them about who I am as a person, because people have always been very intrigued.
Speaker 1:And it's really interesting because, you know, we all have this story that we show up with and I know, as a mom and my kids have always said, I can't wait to grow up, I can't wait to grow up, and it's like wait a second, take a breath and just be where you are in your moment today, because your childhood is just a short window of time compared to your adulthood, right? So with my childhood, it's really an unconventional childhood in the sense that at three years old, my mother locks, you know, me and my little brother up in a closet and the closet shelf had fallen on top of our heads and, of course, this induced trauma for us and we, of course, retain this trauma in our bodies whenever we go through trauma. We hold on to this information on a cellular level, which is why we can remember a lot of things that happen that are really bad, and that experience opened up this gateway of a lot of trauma Literally every kind of abuse that a human could experience. I had experienced, and at five years old I had this beautiful experience of witnessing my guardian angel and during that time it really shifted my gears because it allowed me to see things differently. But when my parents went through their divorce, we went to go live with my grandparents and that experience also made a huge shift in my mindset. So it's interesting because when we go through our journeys, you know we're looking for this sense of where do we have this peace or this joy within our own being? And when I lived with my grandparents they had this monster house. I mean, we had a library in the north end of the house, we had a library in the south end of the house, we had a prep kitchen, an eating kitchen. We sat at a dining room table nightly that seated 12.
Speaker 1:And all of that, said, it was really interesting because you know, we were literally to be seen and not heard. And I know through my walk I've heard a lot of people say, well, yeah, you know, I had that kind of upbringing too, but the difference was was that literally, you know, I was in that house specifically just to eat, and then I was outside, and then I was in that house specifically to go to sleep. And then I was. You know it was either eating or sleeping and the rest of it was like pretty much off limits, and if it was winter, summer, spring, fall, it didn't matter. You know, you were expected to be outside and the weather was really, really bad. Then you were given permission to play down in the basement.
Speaker 2:Wow, there's no love, there's no caring, there's no interaction, there's no. This is what life's all about. There's no tools given, there's nothing for you to really guide you through your journey.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly. So, yeah, so you know the few toys that we had. It was actually my, you know, my aunt's toys or my dad's toys that we discovered like in the house and those few things that were left over from their childhood was really all that we had. My mother, you know, was gone, so she was out of my life and it was interesting because, literally, you know, the story that was fed to us was that you know your dad's working a lot or whatever. So there was a lot of abandonment, as you stated, a lot of abuse, and the only time that there was this sense of freedom as a child was when you were outside and actually exploring the woods.
Speaker 1:So I used to remember the story of Hansel and Gretel and you know the two little kids, the little boy and the little girl and they're, you know, going on the path and they're leaving their little trail of breadcrumbs. And it was really interesting because I can remember, specifically as a little girl, just making that decision, like I'm going to go into the woods.
Speaker 2:It's great. So from such a young age, you're connected with a higher power if you will, with Mother Nature, to really that was your guidance.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yes.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:And Mother Nature was such a powerful force in my life because, as the seasons changed, I was able to witness you know this literally like the journey of life how we go through our seasons as human beings. And I was able to witness so much about Mother Nature and so in tune and aware of the birds and the changes that would happen within nature. And you know, even with the little bunnies in the springtime and you know, just coming out to feed on the morning grass and the dew, there was just so much beauty and grace in Mother Earth and no awareness whatsoever how much healing properties were happening within my body as a little girl, just being out in nature and just grounding, you know that sense of connecting with Mother Earth and all those healing properties from grounding were just so astounding and so life changing for me.
Speaker 2:For sure. And how would you so, from the stuff that you've gone through this amazing journey thus far to bring you to this fast forward a few years? What have you learned through that process and how are you using, I guess, some of these tools to really guide you to what you want to do and how you are now in the position you are Like, how are we making that connection to really do what you're doing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really intriguing because when you go through a lot of abuse as a small child and you're in your formative years, you definitely get a sense of this idea of your physical safety right. So like your physical being, whether or not it is protected, whether or not you are, you know in such a space that you're okay. And because I had that sense about me and because I was sense silenced right because I was to be seen and not heard, it just kind of heightened that awareness of I had to be super careful about how I showed up in the world and what I offered and you know how I presented myself.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So it also put me in a space where I was constantly assessing my environment, you know, as I save and where was I in the grand scheme of things. And, interestingly enough, as I started to grow and as I started to go through school and start to be in the presence of other people, there was this continuous stream of consciousness that would come at me by other people just saying how could you be so grounded, how could you?
Speaker 2:be so centered.
Speaker 1:How can you be so peaceful and?
Speaker 1:you know, radiate what you radiate into the world. And at the time it was really kind of a struggle for me to identify with where this was coming from, because I thought everybody had this ability or this way to tap into their own inner being and do this kind of work for themselves and trust their inner guidance that all human beings are wired with. And when I had that aha moment that the download of what most people were downloaded with information was really provided from what it was that they had in their own environment, whether it was the television, whether it was the projections of the adults, in their life, you know, sharing information with them, or you know, toys or materialism, whatever it was right.
Speaker 1:They were programmed with that information, whereas I had a completely clean slate in regards to the programming, my programming. Yes, there was this trauma, but I knew at five years old that this trauma, this programming was already wrong. And, having witnessed the guardian angel at five, she already was showing me that I was not alone and just being in a space of not being alone was so comforting for me because I always knew that I had some higher power, some, you know, protection around me and it really did allow me to, you know, really feel secure that, even though things were not right in my world like just having the awareness that it wasn't right it changed the perception of how I went forward in my life as well. So as people started to come to me and really say, you know, how can you be, you know who you are and how can you be in this space, they started to ask me more and more questions. They started to ask me, they started to ask me how they could attain what it was that I had.
Speaker 1:And I, in the beginning, when you know, much, many years ago, I always was intrigued by that because I was like, but you have this, you have this in your DNA, you have this as a human being. So that ability to tap into our wellness and that peacefulness and that peaceful state is something that I now help to teach people and you know you asked me how we got here. Like, literally, this whole retreat to peace was just created because the entire world is in that state and the entire world needs the safe healing space and, you know, tools offered to them that they can implement immediately to help undo some of the trauma that is happening and occurring in the world that we're living in.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. So I know a little bit of the story, but let's talk to the listeners on how retreat to peace came to be. Like, how did that name come? Because it's such a powerful, meaningful thing literally that people really don't understand how that came to be, and I think that'd be kind of cool for the listeners to really kind of get into it and take a bite out of it. So tell us how that came to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so last September I literally woke up at 3.30 in the morning and was told that I'm going to be running retreat to peace, and I had no idea what that was. I woke up in the morning and I was just so confused Like what does this mean? What is going on with this? Yeah, it was just really interesting and I had this amazing opportunity to travel out on the West Coast of the United States and I was in this national park and had this phenomenal experience where I was driving in the dark and it was pitch black and we were going through this canyon and my daughter and I literally couldn't see but a few feet ahead of us with the high beams on the car and there was a wing of a bird that took over the entire windshield of the car and in a moment it was like, oh my gosh, what just happened?
Speaker 1:And it was kind of I shouldn't say kind of it was frightening. So my daughter and I were just like, ok, this is pretty intense. And after our screaming episode we kind of calmed down and then got our what just happened.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes. So we get through the group. We get through this canyon at Zion National Park and we're in Springdale, utah. I'm checking into a hotel and for anybody who's never been to Zion National Park, part of the park experience is that you go through a mile and a third. I think it is tunnel that goes through the mountain and at night it is pretty intense. So when I checked into the hotel, the woman at the desk cast me about my drive in and I had shared with her a little bit about how the intensity of this drive was not sharing, about this wing of the bird taking over the windshield, and she said so are you going to the National Park tomorrow? And I said yes, and she said, well, if you're really lucky, you'll get to see a California condor. And I think I just went three sheets of white because I had no idea.
Speaker 2:I think I just met one firsthand. Yes, yes. I virtually high-fived.
Speaker 1:Yes. So she says did you see one? And I said I said I'm not sure, but this wing of a bird took over the windshield of the car. And she goes on to explain that the California condor is the largest bird in North America and can have a minimum a 10-foot wingspan. And there was this revitalization or is this revitalization project for bringing back the condor that was going extinct? And I literally was still picking my job off the ground. And she goes on to explain how amazing experience it says, because this is actually going to put a new spin on life and how things were just going to totally change. So I knew this major moment needed to be banked because it was part of retreat to peace, but I didn't understand why.
Speaker 1:So, as we fast forward through the holidays, I am back out on the West Coast and I'm going, I'm in an airplane and this is in January 2020.
Speaker 1:And, as a reminder for most of you, in January COVID-19 was in Wuhan, china, and everything was in lockdown. So, as I am flying across the country, I'm reading a passage in a book about the prophecy of the eagle and the condor. It literally took my breath away because, as I was reading it, it was just astounding how this 2,000-year-old Native American prophecy was predicting that mankind literally would be put into a place where hundreds and thousands of people around the globe would lose their lives and it literally would take all of the eagles quote unquote of the world, which would be the doctors, the nurses, the pharmacy, the scientists, like all of these people and all of the condors of the world, which be the mothers, the teachers, the healers, the lightworkers, to literally build a bridge and to show this unity around the world where people are coming together to literally save lives. So when I read this I was just like, oh my goodness, yeah, because I knew in an instant that COVID-19 was going to fly.
Speaker 1:And it was going to be everywhere and I also knew that that need to be banked with the California Contour. So leading into February I prayerfully just asked frequently around the world what is coming for the world. And this beautiful, beautiful white piece of head presented itself for two weeks around my home. And it's unusual because where I live we don't have white piece of so for it to show up individually by itself the way that it did it was just astounding, like completely astounding. So I made sure I got my camera out, called everybody I could check this out, look into this.
Speaker 2:What does this mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So I mean, for me it was just beautiful because it really offered a sense of manifesting this state of peace that the world needs for healing. And again, I knew that was part of retreat to peace, but I still didn't have a lot of clarity around it. So if we fast forward up to summer, I literally was told OK, I want you to put a post asking for speakers to just speak, and that's it. I didn't know what that meant, so I put that out in the morning and I just walked away from it not really understanding what was going on yet.
Speaker 1:But the next several meetings that I had throughout my day just changed me, because one I had a woman that was in Ireland and she was explaining that their country, the way that they were in lockdown, that it just felt like this prison, like they couldn't leave, they couldn't do anything, they needed government approval. And she said the only way I feel like I can get out of prison is if I were to die. And I literally said, please, please, please, listen to what I'm saying. Part of trauma and psychological trauma is all these kinds of things that are happening, whether it's grief or the constant bombardment of the negative messaging, the anger, all of these different things, and as I spoke to her about this, it gave her a different lens on the world, which gave her some more compassion for her fellow humans that she's with. But then, as we talk through it, I also said to her everybody's in a period of grief of some stage. So whether you believe in the five stages or the seven stages of grief, there's a stage of grief that you are witnessing playing out around the world in all varieties. Now, without getting into all those stages, the next part of this, I mean for the next 36 hours this woman continuously reaches out and just thanks me profusely from the bottom of her heart because literally she said, you changed my life. I literally wanted to die and you put a different lens and changed my life, my next meaning that I had gone into.
Speaker 1:I spoke with a woman. This one's a little tough. So I spoke with a woman and she was sharing with me that she adopted a little girl. The little girl is 10 years old and she didn't know the backstory of the little girl but as the way things have been developing, the backstory was this little girl was part of the human trafficking. That really gut checked me because the level of abuse and for this little girl she was actually locked in a cage and she was part of that sex trafficking ring and human trafficking and all of that and that really gut checked me because being a survivor of all levels of abuse, including sexual abuse, I can honestly say that literally hit me to my core on such a deep, deep level.
Speaker 1:So my next phone call I had with a friend, she was telling me I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry I can't really talk right now because my sister is bringing my nephew who's 18, who was not able to graduate high school in a traditional sense, to the hospital because he's suicidal. And after these three meetings it was abundantly clear to me that retreat to peace was to create a safe healing space for individuals to go to, to learn ways that they can navigate through the darkness. And my job was literally just to band an army of earth angels to come together and create this platform to allow the world to come to and heal and also offer whatever I had to help in this healing process, because my story, as astounding as it is and life changing, it's just one, and that was the thing that predominantly kept coming through is that your story is one story. We need a banding of a bunch of stories to help the world heal.
Speaker 1:But, there was another thing that happened which was really interesting. So when I went back to my post, I had this amazing, crazy amount of people that had responded and as I started to talk to them, one by one, they said I had no idea why I reached out to you, I had no idea what you were doing, but something was pulling me to be part of this project. And every single person, the connection that was made and literally around the globe, literally around the globe, the connection that was made, and in their life they had signs that were showing up, that were leading them to this project in a different capacity. So when you talk about the synchronicity, when you talk about the way things are orchestrated, I mean it is way bigger than us, way higher than us, and just so amazingly beautiful. But here's what happened. I am so overwhelmed by all of this that I go outside and I just look up to the heavens and I just said I don't know why you chose me. And then I was like nope, nope, I retract that, I've got this, I'm gonna go, just all in, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1:And as I started walking down my road to go see the sunset, my neighbor was putting out his trash and I took a moment to speak with him and we hadn't seen each other for quite some time. But as we were talking, he says I really feel like right now we're in this place of good versus evil. And I said I understand what you're saying. It does feel like that because the energies are so heavy around the world, which is why this project is so necessary and so needed right now. But the interesting thing is we were just talking high level and he says to me he goes hey, you didn't happen to see that white piece of stuff that was flying around the neighborhood in February, did you? And I was like what did you just say? And he says yes, he goes, I saw it. And he said, and I told him, I said absolutely, I saw it. And he said well, the interesting thing about it was when I saw it, it had two bald eagles flying with it. And I just started to cry because I was like the prophecy says the eagle and the condor is standing together. And I had the condor experience. He saw the eagles. It was just another confirmation of this higher power at work.
Speaker 1:And that night, when I closed my eyes, I prayerfully just surrendered to this whole project. And what came to me next was I was supposed to ask each one of my guest speakers I mean, we so often find signs that are presented to us of people or a visit from someone that we knew that has passed on and that can be in the form of seeing a red cardinal or a bluebird or a butterfly, or finding a feather on the ground and I was told ask each one of your guest speakers If I were to find your earth angel feather on the ground, what would your message to the world be? And when I started to share that with all of my speakers, it was astounding the reaction. It was astounding the messages and, as I've interviewed people for this platform, I cannot even tell you how personally moving it's been for me, because I've literally witnessed transformations within individuals where they are channeling information from a higher power.
Speaker 1:And I'm not even saying that lightly. I mean it's been the most beautiful thing I think I've ever been part of. But that is the story of Retreat to Peace in. What a wild ride, an amazing ride, and I still have no idea what's ahead or how it's unfolding. But I'm okay, I'm fully surrendered and it's all great.
Speaker 2:We have some good ideas, though we have some things that we know that we're working on, that we'll be sharing. So, with all that which I still like, I'm in awe with that story because it's just. It's so amazing how the stars align, literally, and how stories are put together and how shifts happen naturally and for a reason, and it's a powerful reason that we're helping others and serving others, at whatever level it may be. We all have our space, that we are here to serve and help others and, with all the stuff that you've been going like, how do you envision yourself helping your guests, your clients, your patients, whatever that may be? Like, how are you envisioning that to really become Retreat to Peace? Like, how is that? Like, to me it's gonna be a shift right into it, naturally, but like, how do you see that?
Speaker 1:It is a beautiful, amazing journey, right? So life is a journey, and I think the thing that I recognize more than anything is that people want to resist change. People want to resist the process of changing because they've got so used to conforming, to being comfortable, that they're afraid to get uncomfortable. And the beautiful part of being uncomfortable is that that's where you're growing right.
Speaker 1:So that's something that right now, even though people are looking at this time like this, is a you know, I've literally heard people say 2020 is a lost year, like it's just lost, and I hear that and I cringe because it's like, wait a second. Like this is a beautiful space to cross over into another place in time where you're going to be completely different, right, and for some people it's just cocooning right Like a butterfly, like you're metamorphosing into something even more beautiful, and for those people it's just going inward and doing this self-work. What COVID-19 has done is it's forced people to go inward and face the stuff that they don't want to face about themselves, because everything has been quieted. And the interesting thing about Retreat to Peace is that no offense to Hollywood, but people are tired of not having a quote, unquote relatable platform in space where other people can really connect. So that's what this space does as well. So, as we move forward, it's this Retreat to Peace platform is really to embrace the changing part of you. It really is to offer that safe space and provide tools that will allow you to live your authentic life in the best possible way that can be.
Speaker 1:So For many people, like I said, it is just going inward. But then, when you go inward, it's like what do I do with this discomfort? What do I do with? You know, I'm holding onto stuff that I don't know how to release, I don't know how to forgive, I don't know how to change something about myself because I'm so uncomfortable. Or maybe I've been manifesting disease in my body because I have been putting in pure stuff into myself, or maybe I have been self-sabotaging my life because of my mindset, like I'm not consciously making myself aware of how I'm self-sabotaging myself, whether you know, like I said, it's creating the disease because of the foods you're eating, or it's the mindset and how you're going into your walk in your day to day. So this retreat to peace, it is that space that gives you those tools.
Speaker 1:But the tools are graduated in a sense, where I have written a book that will be released into the world, real soon, called a centerpiece, meaning center within yourself and having that peaceful state. And this is a book that is a workbook that you specifically are going to create that healing toolbox for yourself. Because the one thing that I know is that my toolbox doesn't work for everybody. Like, we all have our own stuff, so we all have our own toolbox. One size does not fit all, and that's the point of this book is that it is not supposed to. It is supposed to be specifically for you.
Speaker 2:But that's also yeah, I want to stop you on that because what we're dealing with right now just to emphasize on what you just said, because I think it's super important for people to understand that people want 2020 to be done with already. To me, 2020 is the year of lessons and, as you were saying is I always say life is a school, and when you say that, you bring what you just said to a bigger light, because the past six months, seven months, we've really had to look at ourselves and understand ourselves better. Our families More people than not are outside now, walking outside as families. They do their daily family walk. If it wasn't for COVID, that would have never happened. So they're starting to make these healthy shifts in their brain that, with the tools that you were just talking about, they can actually start unlocking this higher power that they have with inside themselves.
Speaker 2:So this book that you're writing, I think, is gonna be so powerful for people, because they need just a little bit of direction, they need a little bit of guidance, and so, with this tool and guidance, how can people like, with the tools that you're sharing, is there any other ways that people can utilize? So you've also written another book as well, so we should talk about that as well. So you've written a couple of books. She's being shy here, people. She's being a little talk about it, so I'm pulling it out of her.
Speaker 1:I'm very humble, can you tell?
Speaker 2:But, jess, you have these amazing tools that people need to really experience a better life and a new life, and these tools that you're having and that you're sharing, these are the tools that people need and want that they should have in their house and every house. So talk a little bit about your more than one book and how they can actually get this book, because it's gonna be so powerful. And then I have another thing that I'm gonna trick you on at the end.
Speaker 1:Oh, so trickster, yeah, so a couple of things. I think what really got me going on writing my book to begin with was this journey and this journey that I've been on, because what was really astounding throughout my life is my mom walked me in this closet and then it ensued on this space where it was like a lot of trauma and she was out of my life and I really didn't have that parental guidance. So there was a lot of abandonment and I didn't have this parental guidance. And it was interesting because as a little girl, it was like I was always on this quest. I'm always like little detective, looking for the signs, looking for the clues, looking for something that she existed or was there or something Like where did she go? Like how did she just disappear? Like all of these things. And consistently throughout my life, people are saying you need to write your story, you need to write your story. And it was like no, no, no, no, I don't wanna do it, I don't wanna do it. And then, finally, it was like oh okay I.
Speaker 1:the calling was so intense and so powerful. It was like, okay, I'm gonna do it. So I finally did it. I've not fully released all of this quite yet. It's in process because I'm listening to Spirit and the higher power and I'm going to be releasing them.
Speaker 1:Yeah yes, yes, so there is a method to this and it's not mine. Like I said, I'm fully surrendered, so, yeah, so this was part of like, literally when I finished writing that book and it's like over 300 pages and it's filled with a lot of stuff and it's a riveting story, it's a page turner and a lot of questions, and by the time you get to the end, the few people that have read it had just said, oh my goodness, like you know, because they couldn't understand the grace, the forgiveness, the intensity of all of this stuff and how I could give that to other individuals who had done this kind of thing. But what's interesting too is that not only did this guardian angel show up for me, but at three years old and I say this all the time for people that don't believe me, I'm sorry if this makes you angry, but it is a fact that we are gifted our experiences. We are gifted our experiences because we are supposed to learn from them. So the people that used to say to me, like that's horrible, that your mother locked you into a closet, I would say you know what? I can turn that inside out, because what I learned that tender age of three was that that light under the doorway was life sustaining and that light was the source of life. Like when we come into this world, we go into the light and when we leave this world, we go into the light. So that alone was just like a huge, huge thing for me throughout my life, because with anything and I'm gonna repeat this with anything that you're going through, your peace is in the light. So the more you operate from that light space, moving into the light with love, with gratitude, with serenity, with forgiveness and again I'll say that again the more you operate in that light. That's where you're going to find a lot of healing. That's where you're gonna find a lot of healing.
Speaker 1:So the driving force was really to wrap my arms around as many people as I could with these books, and then that turned into okay, let's give them more tools by creating the courses, which coursework is actually gonna be available October 1st of 2020. So the coursework so let's give them the courses that they can actually go and do some of this stuff, and the gift of living with my grandparents. That generation that was a depression era generation and they went through hell. That's a fact. They went through hell and I remember my grandfather sitting us down at one point and he said, quote, unquote, I'll never forget it he goes during your lifetime, during your children's lifetime. You are guaranteed to experience something of equivalence to what we went through.
Speaker 1:And the reason being is because people forget, people forget. Oh true, and I was like, oh, my goodness, now I would go say this to people and people would be like, ah, that's not gonna happen, like nothing's gonna happen, like that. Okay, let's talk to them now.
Speaker 2:You know Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's talk to them now. So you know, here we are, and I think that too was a seed that was planted for me, because it made me recognize that I had this unique awareness. And a lot of people right now are really struggling with a lot of anxiety because there's so much in the future and the concern around that. And then there was a lot of people that are living in a state of depression because they're living in the past. They're living in that past state that they used to be in with their life.
Speaker 1:And I was having a conversation over the weekend with a friend and I was saying I think it's so interesting that during the depression, a lot of women did a lot of needlework, a ton of needlework, right, and if you think back, like there were doilies and there were needle pointed chairs and pillows and this and that and all of this stuff, but what you don't realize is just that simple act of that needlework was forcing them to be present, to be in the here and now, and was probably the best gift they could have given themselves in that space, in the here and now. So if there's any gift that you can give yourself, like, do something that is going to make you feel present and be in the here and now. So there's so much. I mean, we could keep on going for hours, absolutely.
Speaker 2:And I think it's important for people to be in the present, as you're saying, but in so many ways is put down the electronics, let's, let's spend time with our loved ones, let's get outside. And it's funny. You and I were talking earlier on and it sounds cliche and sounds weird. But hug a tree, right, and it's just funny. It sounds the weirdest thing ever, but you'd be surprised on what happens in a silly moment, in the present moment, and how grounding that is. It's these small little tools that will help us get through what we're going through and help others.
Speaker 2:We need that ripple effect, right. That's what this whole retreat to piece. It's in a ripple effect of positivity, of love, gratitude, and that is what's gonna get us through this. So you set a little snippet of something that I just wanna bring back to the forefront, because it's a big thing that's happening. That I think needs to be really put on the top of the billboard is a lot of the tools that you're working on. There's something that you're working on that's coming very soon, that people will be able to get these tools, and I've heard a little bit from a course that you're working on. Let's talk about this course.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So the coursework is going to be a multi-tiered approach, where you can go in and you can pick what will be in your budget, will be in your, I guess, heart space, as far as what talks to you, as far as working on yourself and the things that you need to help heal you and those kinds of things. It really does go into this emotional space that you're in. It goes into where are you in your physical space, where are you as a human, showing up with your mind, body, soul right and looking at the ways that you can use natural tools? Because you talked about this ability to hug a tree. I am such a tree hugger and people know it. I'm not afraid to tell you that.
Speaker 2:It sounds weird and corny and silly, but it's gotta be there, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but honestly, the Japanese they call it forest bathing. It's actually called shinrenyuku. I probably said that wrong and I'm really sorry, but really it is a practice of spending time in forested areas for enhancing health, wellness and happiness, and it is a quietness that you intentionally go into the forest and you heal right, and I was practicing this forest bathing as a small child and had no idea that that's how I was healing my body. But for a lot of people they don't have the ability to go into a forest, so what do they do? And that was something the woman in Ireland that she had talked about. She was just like I don't have that kind of ability in my space.
Speaker 1:So in this coursework there are methods and ways that I teach you that you can go into this space and do this healing work, and part of it is let's just look at a lot of different things, like earlier I talked about. What are you doing with your body? Are you detoxing your body? Are you exposed to elements around your environment that are creating you to get sick? A lot of people don't even understand the impact of what stress does to a body right or how they're manifesting disease within themselves because of their environment or because of toxic whatever that may be that word. Toxic, that could be your relationships, that could be what you're putting into your body, that could be what you're putting into your brain. That could be so many different things. So let's look at some of that. Let's look at ways to unwind it and, bigger than that, let's look at the technique of healing, and I'm doing it and fixing it. So this is where we can adjust and shift and make a forward movement.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, yeah. So we're talking about your amazing, amazing course and how people can go through your course to help them with. Obviously, it's emotional, physical and mental traumas that we deal with in life, so you have a lot of amazing tools that you have to offer and share. So, in this course that we're talking about, will they be able to go through this course and really nail down what they're trying to really self help? Because that's really what it's going to be right. Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1:So in this course, they're going to be able to go through a lot of steps that are going to give them the toolbox that they need to navigate life in a very peaceful and tranquil state, versus being in a state where maybe they're reliving events that are creating self sabotage whether that, like I said earlier, that's introducing toxins that they shouldn't be introducing into their life over and over creating disease, things like that.
Speaker 1:And some of that's just mindset.
Speaker 1:Some of that is just going through the house literally and redesigning your journey so that it is a healthy journey versus unhealthy journey, and a lot of people don't even realize what they're doing because they've lost the ability to go inward within themselves and within their space, to recognize that this is how they were programmed, this is what they know, this is what they default to. So to open their eyes to something else and then give them the new lens, kind of like the woman in Ireland when she had a different lens it was like that aha moment. These are the aha moments and instead of taking years and years and years to figure it out, I've condensed it into moments literally. So let's bust through this in moments versus trying to redesign the process or what it looks like and I know for a lot of people forgiveness work is a big one because they're holding onto that stress. So I have a whole exercise that's just specifically around releasing some of that trauma that you may be holding onto and doing that forgiveness work. So that's just one example of many.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. When you know what the magic word is, you know what the last question is going to be is when do you think it's gonna be available? When do you think your books are gonna be out? When do you think your course is becoming? You don't need to say an exact date. When do you think it's gonna be available for people to utilize these tools, cause we need them now more than ever?
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Like we need our hands on great, efficient, effective tools that have been proven to work. Like when are they gonna be available? When are they ready?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So October is the big, the big go. The beginning of October the coursework is going to be live it's already being built as we speak. And October, the first week of October, that's when that's all gonna be live and the book is in process to be published. So October, both are going to be open and available to all audiences around the world and you can access them through the Retreat to Peace, through DreamVision, you know, radio, or DreamVision 7 Radio rather, or you can even go to the website for Retreat to Peace Facebook page. It'll be all accessible through those links and you, like I said, you, can design what it is that you wanna create for your life. As far as this coursework, as far as doing that self-work, nobody can do this for you. That is the biggest, biggest thing.
Speaker 1:How many times do you hear, you know, somebody, frustrated with someone else because they're not doing their work or participating in their journey to do the work? And I just love this analogy where it's a little bit of a story. But you have a minor who's in a mining field and they are mining for gold and they keep digging this tunnel, digging this tunnel, digging this tunnel, and they get to a place where they're like they just give up. They just give up. They take all the tools, they give it, basically sell it at a pawn shop back in the day, whatever that was, and literally the person they sold all their tools to that they spent a lot of money literally like their life savings to get these tools. The person they sold the tools to takes the tools and goes back into that hole, back into that tunnel, and starts mining. And those people that sold their tools were literally three feet from hitting gold right.
Speaker 1:So your journey is always changing. Your journey is always going to change until the day you die. But are you going to continue to grow through your journey, is the question. So you can choose to use the tools to get to the gold and continue to have the gold and reap the benefits of the gold, or you can choose to just not do the work and give up, and then you'll also deal with those consequences. And this is where, like, the coursework is so, so impactful because, literally, you don't have to live in this state of pain. You don't have to live in this state of discomfort and feeling the way that you're feeling when you have tools that you can use to just course correct and be in that state of abundance and peace and really live in your best life.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. I am so excited to get my hands on this course. I can't wait to share it. So just to round it up how can people find you? Where's the best place to get a hold of you? How do you want people to get a hold of you? Because I'm sure you have a very large lineup of people to get a hold of. So how do they reach out to you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so for anyone who is interested in reaching out, please feel free to utilize the website. If you're interested in being on the show again, utilize the website. There'll be a continuum as far as the connection with DreamVision 7 Radio and the website. Also Facebook, instagram, twitter, I mean. They're on all platforms, so just reach out to all of that and the coursework will be available as well.
Speaker 2:Awesome, amazing. Well, thanks for it. This is fun. We had a good little reverse role here. That was kind of fun.
Speaker 1:It was so much fun, so so much fun.
Speaker 2:So inspiring, so amazing. You can help so many millions of people. I can't wait and thanks again, I appreciate. Thank you for having me on your show to host you.
Speaker 1:Well, scott, it has been so much fun to have you interview me and I, you know there's a lot of people you could do this with, but, like you being in Canada, me being in the United States, and we have a special connection anyway, because Scott and I have talked numerous times and it's just, you know, a natural kind of groove. So it's been a joy, it's been a blast and I'm just very excited to get this out, you know, to everyone and I just thank you so much, my friend. But, yeah, and do you have a question for me? Should you ask me the question I always ask everybody, so what was the question again?
Speaker 1:If I were to pick up your earth, angel feather off the ground.
Speaker 2:But we know that already. We know that. Can we just hope you just heard your entire story, with everything we're doing? We know that answer.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, honestly, in a nutshell, if I had to answer my own question, my answer would really be just be light. L-i-g-h-t. Be light, Because when you're light, you're living in love, You're living in forgiveness and generosity and you're just in a very peaceful place and there's so much gratitude. So just just radiate that light and be light.
Speaker 2:That is beautiful, I love it.
Speaker 1:So thank you so much, though, for doing this with me.
Speaker 1:It's been so much fun and, of course, you know this has been a unique episode that we put together today for the audience and I hope you had as much fun with it as we did putting it together for you, and I'm sure in the future we'll be doing some more of something like this, as we, you know, go through the months, but also, you know, as always, look for Retreat to Peace on the website, look at Facebook page, go to the radio station, the coursework, the book coming out everything will be available there, and that's all we have time for today. I'd love to do this longer, but that's all we've got for today. So this is Catherine Daniels and Scott Manduck, and we're happy to have you as part of this journey with Retreat to Peace today. So, as always, live your life with abundance and peace and have your Retreat to Peace. We'll see you next time. Thank you, bye, thank you.